Today at 12:50 a.m. the Third Called Special Session of the 87th Legislature officially adjourned. Unfortunately, the forensic audit President Trump requested, and Governor Abbott added was not acted on.

I’m joined today with Rep. Steve Toth to discuss his Election Audit legislation and to get an update on the monoclonal treatment therapies that are available in Texas.


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Jonathan Schober:
Welcome back again for another episode of the Elephant Herd. We’re in our third special session here in Texas, and one of the big legislative priorities in this session is election integrity and specifically, election audit. Well I’m honored to be joined today by Representative Steve Toth, and he’s carrying the bill in the House about election audit. Representative Toth, welcome to the show.

Rep. Steve Toth:
Jonathan, good to see you. Thanks for having me today.

Jonathan Schober:
So it’s taken us three special sessions, but we’re here in the third one. Tell us about the audit. And I know there was some election integrity that was passed in the second special session. So, give us a little sense of what the gap was that we’re trying to close with your bill.

Rep. Steve Toth:
So, in 2016, of course we have the Democrats saying “Russia, Russia, Russia.” And we spent tens of millions of dollars. We destroyed three and a half years of Trump’s presidency to slow him down and kept him mired, which, I really think that at the end of the day, that’s really all that whole deal was about. It was just keeping Donald Trump mired down so that would make it more difficult for him to advance a conservative, Republican agenda. But at the end of the day, they found nothing.

Well, here we are in 2020. And instead of just ridiculous innuendos and accusations by the Democrats, which is all the Steele dossier was, we actually have evidence. And right here in the state of Texas, when whether it’s SB seven, HB seven or SB one, and all the different iterations of the election integrity bill, we have heard hundreds of witnesses. Hundreds of witnesses, people from Montgomery county, from El Paso, from Cameron county, Dallas county, all over the state of Texas, talking about election fraud that they saw with their own eyes.

And Jonathan, here’s what I don’t understand. If you’re willing to say it’s necessary then therefore to pass election laws, change election laws, to add to the integrity of our elections, then why is it also not appropriate to do an audit and uncover exactly what fraud took place so that we can send people to jail? Because if there’s no cost to cheating, then they’ll just find a different way to cheat.

Jonathan Schober:
We’re basically saying, “Great, we have these great laws on the books, but police officers, we’re not actually going to investigate this. We’re not actually going to go and check.” And one of the things, I think people kind of get mired in the technical stuff. Like how is the election fraud done? They think it’s computers, and maybe there’s a piece of that, but there’s just simple, good old fashioned dead people voting, stuffing ballots. This is not really a high tech problem that’s going on, right?

Rep. Steve Toth:
It’s not. And that’s the hard part of this thing where I kind of feel love Mike Lindell, love his heart, love his support for the president. But the election problem with electronic voting has been a complete and utter distraction from where the Democrats are doing it. We have so much evidence of paper fraud. It’s overwhelming. And that’s where the Democrats have been really smart. It’s three yards forward in a pile of dust and they just do it really, really well. And they’ve done it for years. They’re very successful at it, and we refuse to look into it. It makes me makes no sense at all to me.

Jonathan Schober:
When we talk about audit in an election, what exactly does that mean? How many counties, how frequent? If we’re talking about, “Okay, we’re actually going to hold people accountable, we’re actually going to inspect what we expect.” That’s what I learned in the Air Force. What is it that we’re going to be inspecting? Break us into the details of that.

Rep. Steve Toth:
I’d like to take, basically, the 12 largest counties in the state of Texas, and rather than doing a risk limiting audit, which is useless. Risk limiting audits, the only thing they do is they check boxes. “Was this system followed, was that system followed? Did this person sign off on it?” “Yes, yes, yes, yes.” “Okay, nothing to see here.” Well, that doesn’t answer the question whether or not the voter voting roles are legitimate. It doesn’t answer the question whether or not ballots were falsified. It doesn’t answer the question whether ballot harvesting occurred, it doesn’t answer the question whether or not the Democrat party in one of these counties voted for people.

This was the really cool thing that they did in Maricopa county. They got really creative and they said, “Let’s call people that didn’t vote.” And so they went into these red precincts, among thousands of red voters that supposedly didn’t vote. And when they called them, they found out, “Yeah, I voted. And “Hell yes, I voted.” But, there’s no record of them voting, which means there was no vote.

Jonathan Schober:
I think Maricopa is obviously a case study and what’s been reported, the highlight is the counts came back the same or there wasn’t a whole lot of difference. And no one’s arguing that you can’t count paper, that’s not the argument. The argument is, are those votes valid? Did people do it?

Rep. Steve Toth:
That was the problem, the press they love to say, “Well, Maricopa County came back and said the vote was fine.” But what they failed to report was that the purpose of the audit was to cover fraud, and they uncovered more fraud than they had ever anticipated. And that’s the really frustrating thing in this thing, that so because Maricopa County came back and the numbers were the same, which is what we said would happen, but we’re afraid. And that’s the problem with the Republican party, we’re afraid of our own shadow across the United States. We don’t want to be called wall. We don’t want to be called conspirators. We don’t want to get the mainstream media mad at us. Oh that’d be awful, screw it.

Jonathan Schober:
They’re going to be mad at us. And I think this whole talk about the risk limiting, that’s fine. And business, when there’s a case that can be made, that everyone is intentionally trying to do the right thing. But we know that there are bad actors. I don’t care if you’re Democrat or Republican, there’s bad actors and everyone should assume that there’s bad actors in an election. That’s not conspiratorial. That’s reasonable. And so, we can’t kind of have this, “Oh yeah, we’re going to have this accounting thing and we’ll make sure the process was followed.’ We need to investigate everything. So what’s the bill number in the session?

Rep. Steve Toth:
Is it SB 26 Braden? SB 26 I believe is the one that’s coming over from the Senate. And that’s what we want to focus on right now. Dan Patrick, Patrick has done a great job moving that through the Senate. The author of that is Paul Bettencourt. I think it comes over to the House this next week. And it’s going we just need the speaker to refer it to a committee. And one of the joint authors on that bill will be Chairman Cain of the Elections Committee. We needed to go to his committee so we can get voted out and get it on the floor. Let’s quit screwing around and get this done. We know what took place. We know what happened. Everyone knows it happened, that the support for an audit across the state of Texas among Republicans is off the charts. Let’s get this going.

Jonathan Schober:
I think this actually must be done. Let me change topics a little bit, because another thing that’s going on here in Texas and with COVID and the Biden ministration is these really kind of breakthrough treatments. I don’t know if I’ll pronounce it right, but I think it’s my “monocolonial”? is that how it’s pronounced? But what’s going on-

Rep. Steve Toth:
Monoclonal.

Jonathan Schober:
Monocolonal! I feel like I’m in a Star Wars movie. Tell us a little bit about what’s going on and some of the challenges that we’re dealing with here in Texas.

Rep. Steve Toth:
Well, of course the, the, the Democrats want to keep everything about “the jab”. “Get the jab, get the jab.” And if there’s anything that would preclude you from getting the jab, like a treatment that actually works, that actually saves your life, they don’t want to talk about it. So here you’ve got Harris County, the fourth largest county in the United States, that had the opportunity to get this infusion center. And they said, “No, thanks. We don’t want it.”

Jonathan Schober:
Let me just make sure when you say, they said this was Harris county, who is “they” that said, “No, we don’t want it.”

Rep. Steve Toth:
Lina Hildago.

Jonathan Schober:
And she’s a Democrat judge, am I right on that?

Rep. Steve Toth:
Yeah! She is a Democrat judge and, for all of her people there in Harris county. And here’s the thing is that Hispanics, African-Americans, they have a higher mortality rate when it comes to COVID. She had the opportunity to step up and do the right thing and help these folks. And she did nothing. They didn’t want the infusion center. So we got it here in Montgomery county. And Jonathan it’s been amazing. We’ve had like 1900 people, 2000 people that have gone through, not one has been hospitalized.

I interviewed a guy this morning that was on his death bed. They let him out of the hospital because they got his oxygen concentration up above 93%. He came directly over here, got the infusion and within 72 hours was feeling like a new man. I’m so sick and tired of these doctors that say, “Oh, you’ve got COVID, there’s nothing we can do. Wring our hands, you’re you’re in rough shape. Go home, take Tylenol, drink plenty of water and when you’re ready to die, then call us and we’ll put you on a ventilator as you die.”

It’s just so it’s so freaking ridiculous. We had this thing that was working really well, and then the Biden administration stepped in and said to Florida, and to Texas, “You can’t have it. We’re taking it away from you.” And so they started sending monoclonal antibodies to all these blue states that weren’t using it. And it’s still in these blue states. These blue states have an unbelievable inventory of monoclonal antibodies that will go bad and no one will use them. So the state of Texas stepped up. I’m on the Appropriations Committee, and we’re going to appropriate several million dollars to it because this works and it will keep people out of the hospital, which will in turn save the state of Texas billions and billions of dollars.

Jonathan Schober:
This whole politicization of this disease is just mind numbing. And if 18 months into 18 days to stop the spread has not awakened you, then this is not about medical practice. This is about fear and control.

Rep. Steve Toth:
This has not been about the science and the data since March of last year. That’s when it ceased to be about the science and the data. It’s just been about fear, hysteria and anecdotal stories.

Jonathan Schober:
True, true. Well, I want to take a quick break, but when I come back, I want to talk about sort of your philosophy of governance. So, we’ll be right back.

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Pastor Vic Schober:
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Jonathan Schober:
We’re here today with Representative Steve Toth, and I want to talk a little bit about sort of your governing philosophy. I don’t know if a lot of people recognize this, but most state representatives here in Texas, it’s a part-time job, you’re typically in session 140 days every other year. Now, this has been a little bit of a unique a year with-

Rep. Steve Toth:
The session that won’t end.

Jonathan Schober:
Yeah, this is the one session that won’t end. But one of the things, when I asked people to come on the show, one of the questions I always ask them is, “What are you passionate about?” And I loved what you said, and here’s what I want to spend a few minutes talking about. You said what you’re most passionate about is “Liberty as given to us by God, and emphasized in the US Constitution.” Kind of unpack that for us a little bit.

Rep. Steve Toth:
Leftists don’t believe in God.

Jonathan Schober:
Well, they believe in a god, they just don’t believe in the same one.

Rep. Steve Toth:
Honestly, I think most that I talk to believe that God is a fable. And because they don’t believe in a God, they don’t believe in natural rights. You know, at least the Founding Fathers, if they couldn’t believe in Jesus Christ or they didn’t believe in the Hebrew God, they believed in nature’s God at the very least. And they believed that our rights come from God or nature’s God. Therefore, government doesn’t give you the right.

And that is what makes that is what makes America exceptional. It was only a few years after the American Revolution that you had the French Revolution. Here, 200 plus years later we’re still going strong, although in rough shape right now. But the French Revolution within 12 years gave way to Napoleon Bonaparte. Why? Because, their rights didn’t come from God- well they do, they still come from God. But they believe that rights came from the government, and that led to tyranny and anarchy. And it led to Napoleon Bonaparte, stepping in to bring law and order to the French Revolution.

But that is what makes America exceptional, that our rights come from God and that the only thing that government exists for us to secure these rights. And that is all government should do,, nothing more than that. And unfortunately we’ve become very wayward. We’ve asked government to do too much.

Jonathan Schober:
You can sit here and you can really answer this as a legislator, husband, father, but what is it that keeps you up at night?

Rep. Steve Toth:
This I can remember, and I know this is going to sound kind of weird, but it was 30 years ago. I built an addition on the back of my house and I was watching a news account in Paris as socialists were ransacking and burning Paris. And I thought to myself, “What a blessing that I get to live in the United States, where this will never happen to us.” And it’s happening to us, Jonathan. It’s overwhelming to see that the vast majority of kids coming from the public schools today are adopting socialist beliefs, and that they think they can in some way, shape or form, do it better than Pol Pot, or better than Mao Zedong. It’s not. This is going to be the same conclusion as we’ve seen every other place.

And I pray that God would give us one more chance, as parents, as lawmakers, moms, and dads, to instruct our children, teach our children, teach your children well, teach your children well instead of believing that the public schools are going to do it for us. Because they’re not. Unfortunately too many in the public schools have been the enemy of Liberty. They’ve been the enemy of Faith. They’ve been the enemy of the family today as they’re trying to say through Merrick Garland, “We will raise your kids. Moms and dads, you’re not responsible for raising your kids, we are. And if you show up at a school board meeting and you talk smack, we’ll throw your ass in jail.” Enough of that. Screw that. We’re going to start fighting back. That’s what keeps me up at night.

Jonathan Schober:
Absolutely. We just did an episode right here in Round Rock ISD, we had two parents thrown in jail by what I believe is just clearly an abuse of power by a school board. So, I think that’s a sobering thought, but I think it’s very true. And I think the takeaway action is if you’re listening to this podcast, you’re clearly involved and engaged. I think the action item is make sure that your friends, your families, your church members, your other people are awake and engaged and doing something. Because, the only chance that we have is when good men step in and engage. Because if we allow this to continue, it goes to a very bad place that is just a repeat of history, and it was a great experiment while it lasted. So I think that’s great advice.

If someone wants to reach you or contact you on your campaign or what you’re doing in Montgomery county, what’s the website?

Rep. Steve Toth:
You can email me it at stevetothfortexas.com. That’s Steve at Steve Toth for Texas.com All spelled out, or you can call me on my cell. (281) 770-7287. And yes, I’ll actually pick it up. Here it is right here.

Jonathan Schober:
That’s awesome, we’re going to have people call you. Well Steve, Representative Toth, thank you so much for being on the show.

Rep. Steve Toth:
Thank you, Jonathan. God bless you, buddy. I appreciate what you’re doing.

Jonathan Schober:
My pleasure. Well, if you enjoyed this episode, you can send a comment or questions or suggestions about free future episodes. You can text me at 512-729-5712. If you want to listen to previous episodes, you can hear all recorded episodes at texasgop.org/podcast.

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